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	<title>Comments on: Giant Letdown: Fourth Quarter Demise Does in Steelers in 21-14 Loss</title>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 19:26:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt,

Yes the Steelers have a tough schedule, but great teams DO NOT let wins slip away.

The Steelers beat themselves on Sunday, simple as that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt,</p>
<p>Yes the Steelers have a tough schedule, but great teams DO NOT let wins slip away.</p>
<p>The Steelers beat themselves on Sunday, simple as that.</p>
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		<title>By: MARK FARESSA</title>
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		<dc:creator>MARK FARESSA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim, I personally have more faith in Ben then in Tomlin. Like I have said before, Tomlin needs to prove a lot more then Ben does. To Tomlins credit, suspending Holmes was the right thing!! No room for trouble in Pittsburgh. Hopefully he changes his tune. He was missed on Sunday, but too bad. The Steelers need this game Monday BAAAD!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim, I personally have more faith in Ben then in Tomlin. Like I have said before, Tomlin needs to prove a lot more then Ben does. To Tomlins credit, suspending Holmes was the right thing!! No room for trouble in Pittsburgh. Hopefully he changes his tune. He was missed on Sunday, but too bad. The Steelers need this game Monday BAAAD!!</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 03:04:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Monday night game against the Redskins is definitely a &quot;must win&quot; game!  Let&#039;s take a look at the 5 Steeler wins: Texas, Cleveland, Baltimore, Jacksonville, Cincinnati. The 2 losses: Philadelphia and NY Giants (both in the NFC East) Pittsburgh needs to prove they can beat a GOOD team with a winning record! (Its nice Pittsburgh can beat up weaker teams...hell, it&#039;s expected - but if they are gonna play deep into January they&#039;re gonna have to start beating GOOD teams!)

Pittsburgh needs to get an identity and damn fast, or the Redskin game could be another debacle. The Eagles and Giants have proven the way to beat the Steelers is to pressure &quot;little Ben&quot; and he&#039;ll collapse under a weak-ass offensive line - not to mention throwing interceptions to the opposing team!

The Redskin game is going to be a bellweather of the Steelers season. The outcome of that game could very well indicate how the rest of the season goes.

I am rapidly losing faith not only in Ben but Mike Tomlin to PROPERLY prepare his team. It&#039;s starting to look like Dan Rooney made a poor choice to be the head coach of this Pittsburgh team.

I hope I&#039;m wrong about Tomlin...but it doesn&#039;t look good!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Monday night game against the Redskins is definitely a &#8220;must win&#8221; game!  Let&#8217;s take a look at the 5 Steeler wins: Texas, Cleveland, Baltimore, Jacksonville, Cincinnati. The 2 losses: Philadelphia and NY Giants (both in the NFC East) Pittsburgh needs to prove they can beat a GOOD team with a winning record! (Its nice Pittsburgh can beat up weaker teams&#8230;hell, it&#8217;s expected &#8211; but if they are gonna play deep into January they&#8217;re gonna have to start beating GOOD teams!)</p>
<p>Pittsburgh needs to get an identity and damn fast, or the Redskin game could be another debacle. The Eagles and Giants have proven the way to beat the Steelers is to pressure &#8220;little Ben&#8221; and he&#8217;ll collapse under a weak-ass offensive line &#8211; not to mention throwing interceptions to the opposing team!</p>
<p>The Redskin game is going to be a bellweather of the Steelers season. The outcome of that game could very well indicate how the rest of the season goes.</p>
<p>I am rapidly losing faith not only in Ben but Mike Tomlin to PROPERLY prepare his team. It&#8217;s starting to look like Dan Rooney made a poor choice to be the head coach of this Pittsburgh team.</p>
<p>I hope I&#8217;m wrong about Tomlin&#8230;but it doesn&#8217;t look good!</p>
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		<title>By: mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 23:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt, you might be right about them being 5-2, but they let a winnable game get away from them for all the same reasons they have lost winnable games in the recent past. They have no identity,a mediocre O-line,questionable play calling, etc.... If they plan on &quot;giving&quot; away winnable games, then what differance does their tough schedule make? This Redskin game Monday is another tough one. I almost think that its a &quot;must&quot; win!They have to show they can beat good, tough teams when needed. Beating the Bengals,Browns and Texans were almost expected. Now they face the &quot;meat&quot; of this hard schedule and no one, not even the team and their coaching staff really knows what team is showing up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt, you might be right about them being 5-2, but they let a winnable game get away from them for all the same reasons they have lost winnable games in the recent past. They have no identity,a mediocre O-line,questionable play calling, etc&#8230;. If they plan on &#8220;giving&#8221; away winnable games, then what differance does their tough schedule make? This Redskin game Monday is another tough one. I almost think that its a &#8220;must&#8221; win!They have to show they can beat good, tough teams when needed. Beating the Bengals,Browns and Texans were almost expected. Now they face the &#8220;meat&#8221; of this hard schedule and no one, not even the team and their coaching staff really knows what team is showing up.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Loede</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Loede</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 20:30:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Everyone, not to be blind to the issues at hand, but let&#039;s remember they have the toughest schedule in the league and are 5-2.  When they play their best, what team (maybe other than the Titans) do you really think can beat them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Everyone, not to be blind to the issues at hand, but let&#8217;s remember they have the toughest schedule in the league and are 5-2.  When they play their best, what team (maybe other than the Titans) do you really think can beat them?</p>
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		<title>By: Ronnie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ronnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 18:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too think that the turning point in the game was the Chris K, ridiculous late hit. It was a late hit and not even close to being a part of the play. Coach Tomlin should&#039;ve pulled Chris K just like Singletary did to Vernon Davis. It was an absolutely HUGE turning point in the game and a SELFISH act.
I don&#039;t care if you have to put in a 3rd stringer, it isn&#039;t as though Chris K is good anyway. I would rather have average disciplined players than ones that act selfishly by making RIDICULOUS plays. I would love to hear Chris K&#039;s explanation for what he was thinking. Please somebody give that question to him. That should be a huge part of the Steeler&#039;s Coaching plan. Next time they think of getting a retaliatory shove or punch, a late hit, etc. their butts should ride the pine and pay a nice fat fine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too think that the turning point in the game was the Chris K, ridiculous late hit. It was a late hit and not even close to being a part of the play. Coach Tomlin should&#8217;ve pulled Chris K just like Singletary did to Vernon Davis. It was an absolutely HUGE turning point in the game and a SELFISH act.<br />
I don&#8217;t care if you have to put in a 3rd stringer, it isn&#8217;t as though Chris K is good anyway. I would rather have average disciplined players than ones that act selfishly by making RIDICULOUS plays. I would love to hear Chris K&#8217;s explanation for what he was thinking. Please somebody give that question to him. That should be a huge part of the Steeler&#8217;s Coaching plan. Next time they think of getting a retaliatory shove or punch, a late hit, etc. their butts should ride the pine and pay a nice fat fine.</p>
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		<title>By: mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 18:48:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guys, I want to agree even more with you but I have to respectfully disagree on 1 thing. Ben had a great year last year. I do think he has somewhat regressed this year and he is &quot;thinking too much&quot;. I blame this loss on play calling as much as injuries. Like I stated in my previous post and in the previous years. The Steelers got away from the run, even though it was working very well yesterday. Also, Tim is right! there is NO identity on this team and as I said before, Tomlin seems to be in over his head. I can drive a corvette too, but I may not get the performance it deserves. Same here, the STeelers are not performing at the level they could be.I will hear injuries are the biggest reason, and that is a partial explanation. However, yesterday the G-men were their to be beat and we let them off the hook. NO TOUGHNESS!! We get buy on a select few players (Ben included) and their above average skills to keep us competitive.Time for the &quot;coach&quot; to get more out of his players and staff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guys, I want to agree even more with you but I have to respectfully disagree on 1 thing. Ben had a great year last year. I do think he has somewhat regressed this year and he is &#8220;thinking too much&#8221;. I blame this loss on play calling as much as injuries. Like I stated in my previous post and in the previous years. The Steelers got away from the run, even though it was working very well yesterday. Also, Tim is right! there is NO identity on this team and as I said before, Tomlin seems to be in over his head. I can drive a corvette too, but I may not get the performance it deserves. Same here, the STeelers are not performing at the level they could be.I will hear injuries are the biggest reason, and that is a partial explanation. However, yesterday the G-men were their to be beat and we let them off the hook. NO TOUGHNESS!! We get buy on a select few players (Ben included) and their above average skills to keep us competitive.Time for the &#8220;coach&#8221; to get more out of his players and staff.</p>
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		<title>By: CJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>CJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 18:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When are the Steelers going to take a serious look at the offensive coordinator?  We have one of the top 3 tight ends in the NFL and they are just not utilizing him like they should.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When are the Steelers going to take a serious look at the offensive coordinator?  We have one of the top 3 tight ends in the NFL and they are just not utilizing him like they should.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 18:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gentlemen,

You all have made some great points, and it is because you love the Steelers as much as I do, that we have to be brutally honest in this forum.

I think Tim made a very important point, and one that I agree with 100%: Ben has not been the same since Superbowl XL.

It is not because of the motorcycle accident, nor the appendicitis.  In my my humble opinion, either:

1. Ben is &#039;thinking&#039; too much,

2. He just doesn&#039;t have the intelligence that we all thought he had.

Ben appears to be the shell of what he once was.

As for Arians, I think it is time Tomlin let him go...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gentlemen,</p>
<p>You all have made some great points, and it is because you love the Steelers as much as I do, that we have to be brutally honest in this forum.</p>
<p>I think Tim made a very important point, and one that I agree with 100%: Ben has not been the same since Superbowl XL.</p>
<p>It is not because of the motorcycle accident, nor the appendicitis.  In my my humble opinion, either:</p>
<p>1. Ben is &#8216;thinking&#8217; too much,</p>
<p>2. He just doesn&#8217;t have the intelligence that we all thought he had.</p>
<p>Ben appears to be the shell of what he once was.</p>
<p>As for Arians, I think it is time Tomlin let him go&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Sabo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay Sabo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 16:52:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know from watching enough football when a team is on a touchdown drive and we were on one in the third or fourth quarter that (should&#039;ve) culminated with the second toss to Nate.  But the undisciplined Chris K with the penalty, the horrendous excuse known as Willie C with the holding call (he also had a false start on a third and eight that resulted in a third and 13 that Ben got nine yards on---would&#039;ve been a first down).  It&#039;s almost as if the offense was trying to score and the O-line said, &quot;No, we&#039;re not going t let you!  We suck remember and we&#039;ll be damned if we play otherwise!&quot;  I do agree (partially) with the posts before me here in that Arians got away from Moore which allowed the Giants sack happy D-line to get on track, Ben held the ball too long, but I&#039;m not ready to write Tomlin off just yet...getting close though...but not yet...You guys before me are right...Giants are overrated and we shoulda won but offensive line play on those two second half drives (before the safety) did us in!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know from watching enough football when a team is on a touchdown drive and we were on one in the third or fourth quarter that (should&#8217;ve) culminated with the second toss to Nate.  But the undisciplined Chris K with the penalty, the horrendous excuse known as Willie C with the holding call (he also had a false start on a third and eight that resulted in a third and 13 that Ben got nine yards on&#8212;would&#8217;ve been a first down).  It&#8217;s almost as if the offense was trying to score and the O-line said, &#8220;No, we&#8217;re not going t let you!  We suck remember and we&#8217;ll be damned if we play otherwise!&#8221;  I do agree (partially) with the posts before me here in that Arians got away from Moore which allowed the Giants sack happy D-line to get on track, Ben held the ball too long, but I&#8217;m not ready to write Tomlin off just yet&#8230;getting close though&#8230;but not yet&#8230;You guys before me are right&#8230;Giants are overrated and we shoulda won but offensive line play on those two second half drives (before the safety) did us in!</p>
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